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Shooting tips and equipment for beginners

PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 6:03 pm
by rws45user
Hi All, I have looked around and could not find a post for things that would help beginners like my self in field target shooting , so I'm starting this post . If anyone want to add something that might help out a beginner in any way please share it . I would like to see some gun choices along with scope choices and how to set them up . My first post is going to be about Parallax . Watch this video about parallax . I thought it was a good video and might be something a beginner would want to know. https://youtu.be/c-ied67wwHY

Re: Shooting tips and equipment for beginners

PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 7:24 pm
by rws45user
Setting ,Kneeling and standing tips . https://youtu.be/yiPzJrANAQA

Re: Shooting tips and equipment for beginners

PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 5:02 pm
by rws45user
What is the best scope for the hunter class ? Again as being new to the sport I'm trying to find out all about this sport and I thought I would ask the questions other new shooters might ask as well . I have found out that if your interested in AAFTA hunter class your going to need a scope that has indicating markes on the scopes reticle ( maybe the more the better ) not sure yet . Marks like mil dots or tiny cross sections placed all over the reticle . The reason you have to have markings on the reticle and not just a single cross hair , is that your not allowed to move the scopes turrets once the match starts . So you have to know where the pellet is going to hit at different distances 10 to 55 yards . so you have to practice and make a chart to help you remember where at on the reticle your pellet is at that different . I think most shooters mark every yard not feet here is a good photo of a I think hunter class reminder chart . http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/blog/wp ... ft-010.jpg. For hunter class this looks like a good scope to get the label said centerpoint 4-16 I think its might be good because if your gun is putting out 800 ish fps that's around 12fpe so on weaker guns like my old rws 45 I think I'm going to need all the mildots I can get above and below the center line . since your not going to use the turrets tracking is not going to be a issue but I think holding a zero would be for sure . Also in hunter class your limited to 12x power so the big high power scopes like a 10-50x50 is not needed . the turret adjust amount that can range from 150 moa to 15 moa would not matter in this class either , so maybe spending your money on a good quality lens would be the scope to get . the better quality the lens the better your going to see the target. I have found out through the years that fixed scopes like a 10 x power or a fixed 12 power have a lot better sight picture and have better glass in them than the zoom powers scopes . from what I have read in the sniper forums this is true . so if your limited to 12 power don't get a zoom scope that's just going to cut your view now so things are not so clear. So far the clearest and best glass in a scope that has a fixed 10 and 12 power and is also spring rated and built to military specs that is under 400.00 with a side wheel adjustment and 300.00 for a rear parallax adjustment is the SWFA 10 x42 or the 12x42 but i think the 12 x42 only comes in rear parallax adjustment . It also tracks 100 percent of the time and holds zero . So, so far for a hunter class scope the swfa ss would be my pick for the money . Maybe some long time hunter class shooters will add to this and let you know about what they like that might be even cheaper and better . Here is a video from Rex about it https://youtu.be/nky0voYC7gQ. I have been doing mostly long range shooting with a Hatsan 125 sniper 22 cal air gun and not so much with the closer distance like the 10 to 55 yard range go I know more about set ups for distances over 100 yards . But Rex has about 80 videos on sniper 101 . he really goes over a bunch of scopes and their uses and just about every thing you want to know about scopes. I think scope selection starts on video 20 but if you like shooting at all you will be hooked and end up watching all of them . https://youtu.be/-wBr_brpSYk. If anyone has some scope ideas on other class other than hunter class and the scopes used in them would you mind adding a post about them to help out use beginners . I think I should add that when looking for a scope be sure that the parallax focuses down to 10 yards a lot of scopes don't . If your going to use a spring or nitro gas type air gun make sure they are spring air gun approved . Now a days scope brands will say air gun rated but they may be talking about the pcp's and some even say pcp only . For example the company Aeon just recently add to their web sight that they no longer warranty the scope if used on a spring air gun or if you added a wheel which they did sale . so just be aware and ask and if possible get in writing.
In a open class Where power is unlimited is it better to have a ffp scope or a 2nd fp scope .? When the scope is zoomed in on a ffp will the cross hairs be to big and cover to much of the target ?

Re: Shooting tips and equipment for beginners

PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:03 pm
by Scotchmo
The 12x42 SWFA specs looked really good. I bought one a couple of years ago but was disappointed in the super thin reticle. I sent it back. I have an easier time with thick reticles that don't disappear on a black faceplate. Your eyes might be different

I like the UTG/Leapers 3-12x44 SWAT scopes for Hunter Division. Very reasonable cost. Short and long versions available. Thick or thin reticles available.

UTG/Leapers also makes a fixed 10x. The fixed 10x looks a little more clear which about makes up for it's slightly lower magnification. I prefer the 3-12x when given the choice.

The Centerpoint 4-16x is also good enough.

All the Leapers scopes have 9 mil-dots per quadrant so you might like them. They have a bunch of models up to 24x in the $100-$140 range. I started with one and still them.

I use a UTG/Leapers 6-24x in Open Division and it works OK there as well.

Re: Shooting tips and equipment for beginners

PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:01 pm
by rws45user
Thanks Scotchmo I did watch a video as someone did say it was hard to see the reticles because they were so thin . I better think on that . it might make it a deal breaker for sure . I know this is not the rule section but can you use a illuminated radical in hunter class if you can't see the reticles in darker shots . I like the 9 mil dot choice also , that sounds like a good one to look into .

Re: Shooting tips and equipment for beginners

PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 3:40 am
by Scotchmo
rws45user wrote:Thanks Scotchmo I did watch a video as someone did say it was hard to see the reticles because they were so thin . I better think on that . it might make it a deal breaker for sure . I know this is not the rule section but can you use a illuminated radical in hunter class if you can't see the reticles in darker shots . I like the 9 mil dot choice also , that sounds like a good one to look into .


You can use an illuminated reticle. Rarely needed but the SWFA 12x42 could have used one since it did not stand out enough.

Re: Shooting tips and equipment for beginners

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2015 4:21 pm
by rws45user
How many fps in a .177 cal gun is needed to knock down a field using a 7.9 g pellet at the 55 yard distance ? What is the fpe needed to knock down a field target and do all the targets have the same fpe needed to knock them down ? If I'm wrong someone please correct me but from what I have read its 4 fpe needed to knock one down. So according to ChairGun using your standard 7.9 pellet you would need at least a 700 fps out of the barrel gun to be safe . And since there is a 20 fpe limit, your top fps out of the the barrel would be a 1060 fps gun using a 7.9 g pellet . I would assume all FT targets would not be allowed to go over the 4fpe limit .

Re: Shooting tips and equipment for beginners

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2015 5:16 pm
by rws45user
What are the top ten spring powered air rifles used in a hunter class ,and maybe some pros and cons to go along with the guns . I found this link that might answer some questions . http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2007/08/ ... springers/