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Recent Bog rejection of the Chairman's Poll

PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 2:33 am
by Bill Day
With 36 shooters (Mostly) HFT competitors I am quite surprised that this "wish list" was not seriously considered. Honestly, I feel this poll was taken because there was a assumption that the vast majority would not be in favor of it. From my view point I think the majority did a pretty good favoring the "nt" poll. Alas! To bad we wasted our time! Had a feeling when a former Chairman criticized the present chairman about the legitimacy of taking this poll it wasn't going to go any where. Seeing the BOG rejected the idea I as a member club would like to see how the governors we elected actually voted if we have any transparency. I am resolved to accept the bog decision. However, A token request for a free style class at future Nationals should be considered and allow the freestylers to come and compete at a reduced admission seeing AFFTA won't have to buy them awards. I think that is the least we can do for some of our elders that no longer have a class they can compete in.

Another idea to consider .................

PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 2:02 pm
by Bill Day
We have a high senior award every year at the nationals that is determine by the high scorer over the age of 65 (I assume this age cutoff but not exactly sure) Why not have a registered senior class that freestyle rules would apply in and award top three if participation warrants. This would give our elders a class to practice for at the local matches and a merit to strive for at our Nationals every year and they might stay with us longer. This new senior class would replace the "High Senior" we already have. Kinda of a "Tit for Tat" proposal that wouldn't necessarily create a new class and give senior shooters more longevity in FT.

Re: Recent Bog rejection of the Chairman's Poll

PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 3:24 pm
by richard
I have never pushed for additional divisions and I suspect most, not all, feel that way however I do run added classes/divisions at our club matches. We have been running an unlimited class and a standing class, both with somewhat limited participation. We have good turnouts for our matches but still end up combining classes/divisions. The nationals is a little different animal in that there is large participation which may support them, the hosting club, running some non AAFTA divisions like "unlimited". If participation in "unlimited" increases a lot we should then consider a new division. It would not be right however, to hijack another division to create an "unlimited" class which of course would totally destroy the HFT division which by the way is currently the most popular division.
This is just my opinion and I try to base it on what happens at our match plus what I read in match reports of other clubs.

Re: Recent Bog rejection of the Chairman's Poll

PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 6:06 pm
by Bill Day
You make a lot sense Mr. Basset but when the WFTF class was created it Hijacked all classes with Hunter maybe uneffected the least. Why? Because most shooting Hunter have some type of age /disability issue and they couldn't do WFTF if they wanted to. Granted we do have a few that meet the physical conditioning demands that the mission statement cries out for but the vast majority do not. I think the mission statements for all classes should of been blessed by the clubs before just making them the law, but that isn't always the way our Org works.

Re: Recent Bog rejection of the Chairman's Poll

PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:35 am
by JimW
I am of the belief that there is no reason why WFTF, Hunter and Open can't be all shooting for the same prize.

Currently Open and WFTF have a great amount of parity, the Nationals scores from the last few years that WFTF is about a point or two higher over Open.

Hunter class has been relegated to the trash bin when it could be on par with Open and WFTF. Sure there are 'reasons', mostly it being for the beginners. But Hunter is not being shot by beginners, it's being shot by some of the longest tenured shooters in field target.

Hunter class is really where everyone is going to end up one day... Well apart from a select few who's future health issues will not restrict their ability to get up and down and those who will quit before they are reduced to 12x magnification.

Honestly I would be one of those quitters if my health issues were not an issue.

It's the 12x limitation.

So Open get's to have cool toys, WFTF too, Hunter get's it's hands tied behind it's back.

You have to wonder why? Why? WHY???

Is it because the Open and WFTF guys are scared of competition?

Seems so, because we have half the field shooting with their hands tied behind their backs and none of them like it and it's not changing now or any time soon.

Re: Recent Bog rejection of the Chairman's Poll

PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:05 am
by ateamray
Agreed and well stated.

Re: Recent Bog rejection of the Chairman's Poll

PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 10:44 pm
by Bill Day
I would hate to think the great shooters of our game are worried about us Hunter shooters but the Bog members have enough of those "Great shooters" that we most likely will never find out if that was indeed true. It would be interesting to see how we would do with better scopes. The one time I shot unlimited this year I only managed to bring down 70% of the shots which was on the low side of my HFT scores.